Why is "virus" vs "no virus" such a hot topic?

and has a false medical model trapped us into a false conflict?

Why is virus vs no virus such a hot topic?

I am going to play with the idea that our entirely false medical model has entrapped us into what I consider to be, an entirely pointless fight.

That fight is between allies in the covid space, one group who believes that covid was/is a virus, and the other that believes there is no such thing as a virus. The second group then splits into those who believe that some people did get sick with something, just not a virus, and those who rather insultingly believe those of us who got sick, fell for the propaganda that told us we would get sick. Doh, what mindless dumb-dumbs we are!

None of these positions is helpful when they alienate us from one another and from finding out what really made us sick and what might help us get well again.

I am speculating that we are not thinking about “to virus or not to virus” correctly.

How traditional medicine differs from allopathic medicine

If we escape from the allopathic medical model for a few seconds, and look at all forms of traditional medicine from all cultures, we will see very quickly that none of those systems were built in laboratories. They were all built by seeing what worked. The process…

1. Someone got sick

2. Someone gave them a medicine

3. Something ranging from death to recovery of the sick person eventuated

4. If the sick person recovered, that same medicine was used over and over again for as long as people kept recovering,

The importance of repeatability

The key to this system is repeatability. If some medicine is applied to some complaint, over and over again, and for the most part it works better than leaving the person untreated or treating them with something different, then that medicine goes into the folklore.

So how does this relate to viruses?

Natural medicine systems are notoriously short of known, successful anti-virals. Anti-bacterials, there is a gazillion of them, anti-virals, not so much so. Is there a message there? Who knows, but there are a few with a reputation as anti-virals. Oregano extract and elderberry extract are two of them. So how did they get the reputation of being anti-virals?

Well the process is back to front or “upside down”.

1. We call some set of symptoms a virus (not interested in whether some pathogen has or has not been identified in a laboratory to explain a particular set of symptoms - it seems that none has with covid - but it is not relevant)

2. We observe that something or other seems to successfully assist the body turn the disease around in some way.

3. We call that something an anti-viral. We call it an anti-viral because it works against something we have called a virus. If we called it a googie, then we would call the successful treatment an anti-googie.

Just words, folks. The only thing that matters is that someone got sick and then got well, with a little bit of help from nature.

Shingles as an example

Let’s look at diseases that are supposedly caused by viruses. I had shingles last year, supposedly a re-awakening of the chicken pox “virus”. I am sure thousands of Substackers had other forms of herpes, also supposedly caused by a variant of the herpes “virus”. After suffering for a while with no treatment (because medicine has no treatment that works) and with the rash painfully spreading down my arm, I ran a search on the web for natural treatments for shingles and only came up with one, elderberry.

The magic of elderberry

You will find elderberry listed as an “anti-viral”. And in scientific papers you will see it identified as a general anti-microbial, which means that it kills lots of different bugs that can hurt or harm the human body if they get out of control. So I take a home-made concoction of elderberry in cheap vodka, and hey presto, within days the shingles has stopped its march down my arm, and the blisters have all dried up. Good enough for me. Still some residual itching and quite severe pain, but I am happy that its onward march has been halted. If I ever have another attack of shingles, or heaven forbid, some other form of herpes, I will use Elderberry again, and I will recommend it to others, in the full belief that it works.

Do I care if the shingles is caused by a virus?

No I don’t. Those 5 letters strung together into a word are irrelevant to me. The only thing that is relevant to me is that elderberry helps the body fix it.

If we follow the “if it works, it works” process to find treatments for all diseases, we are left in an interesting place.

So what was covid and what is long covid?

My answer to that question is “who cares”? People got sick with something really nasty that medicine identified as a virus called covid 19, then some portion of them stayed sick with something really nasty that some medicos identified as the spike protein and gave it the name “long covid”.

At the same time some observant doctors noticed that some treatments that have been called anti-parasitics in the past, seem to stop the set of symptoms called covid or long covid in its tracks. They tested those perfectly safe (at the right dose) anti-parasitics to the point where they were sure that they worked - at least to some degree. As long covid set in, they used the same anti-parasitics successfully for long covid. Noticeably, these successful treatments became apparent within weeks of the start of the supposed viral pandemic.

Ooops, here we have a virus, and the resultant damage done by that now long gone “virus”, both being treated by anti-parasitics. Does it matter if we call it a virus or a parasite? An anti-parasitic, in fact, a range of different anti-parasitics, operating in different parts of the body against different parasites, worked!

Does this mean that covid is some form of parasite, and that we are treating a parasite rather than a virus?

Frankly, who cares? It works. That’s all that matters. It works.

And now, the epidemic level of new cancer diagnoses

Quite a few years ago now, a lady called Hulda Clark published a book called “The Cure for all Diseases”.

Hulda Regehr Clark was a Canadian naturopath, author, and practitioner of alternative medicine. Clark claimed all human disease was related to parasitic infection, and also claimed to be able to cure all diseases, including cancer and HIV/AIDS

She, along with a few others, promoted apricot kernels as a treatment for cancer because of their very high anthocyanin content, which is effectively an anti-parasitic. Notably these are still in use today to treat many forms of cancer, and because they are successful, have been made illegal to use as a cancer treatment in many countries. To understand the politics behind the repression of apricot kernels as a cure for cancer, read World Without Cancer by G Edward Griffin.

Hulda Clarke and G. Edward Griffin

And now, thanks to the covid era, we have other anti-parasitics being promoted as cancer treatments in response to the epidemic of newly diagnosed cancers.

The Ivermectin, Fenbendazole, Vitamin C and Bicarbonate of Soda protocol

Can anti-parasitics cure a whole host of diseases, including covid, long covid and cancer?

It seems that anti-parasitics can cure most things related to covid, and many different cancers. So do we care if what we are suffering from is called a virus or a pathogen or a cancer or anything else?

All we need to know is that:

• we have a set of symptoms, which if allowed to ravage our bodies unchecked will disable or kill us eventually

• we have a healing protocol involving known and proven anti-parasitics, that can reverse and stop the damage, leaving us able to live “a normal life” to our given life-span.

If it succumbs to known and proven anti-parasitics is it a parasite? Call me simplistic, but probably, yes.

But do I care what it is called as long as I get well again? Call me simplistic, but probably, no.

Proper research would be a nice thing

My rider on that is that it would be great if some legitimate research was conducted on which parasites are implicated in which disease, and which plant-based phytochemicals were the most effective at destroying each parasite. Hulda Clark started this research, but it has a long way to go.

But do we need to know if there is something called a virus? No we don’t. We just need to know what causes a common set of symptoms to go away. It makes it easier to have a word that describes that set of symptoms, but not if that word takes us further away from successfully treating that set of symptoms. The word “virus” is currently getting in the way.

So let’s stop the squabbling and look at the only thing that matters,
what helps sick people get well again?

Let’s get back to our traditional way of thinking

Traditional, plant-based medical systems have existed for the entirety of recorded history. They must have something going for them. I have no doubt that my own immune system would eventually have reversed the shingles, but if there is something like elderberry to help me feel better, then thank you, nature, for that gift. I am now dealing with a diagnosis of melanoma, for which I have rejected mainstream treatment and which I am now, rightly or wrongly, treating as a parasitic disease. My approach is the same. Nature has the answer. I just have to find it.

…and as chance would have it, elderberry is also anti-parasitic as most plants are, and, with a very high level of anthocyanins, has anti-cancer properties.

Antiproliferative and Apoptotic Potential of Cyanidin-Based Anthocyanins on Melanoma Cells (Elderberry)

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